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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Ussj Future Trunks on Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:33 am

...no she isnt. she possesses maybe two qualities that fit a mary sue. and thats it.. mary sues arent the flawed, arrogant, inexperienced, noobish people bra is. they are perfect in every way.
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Post  Stick on Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:35 am

The fact she even has Mary Sue qualities is proof enough she is a Mary Sue. Why you even arguing this?
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Ussj Future Trunks on Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:38 am

again thats just dumb. gohan is a gary stu then because he possesses the same sue qualities as bra. 1. amazingly strong. 2. child of main character. considering the progressive nature of dbz and how the next generation is always super strong, almost every saiyan is a gary/mary stu. (makes sense right...wait no. idiot. no one is a mary sue, except maybe vegetto)

and that would be idiotic.

darth vader is strong. OMG HE MUST BE A VILLAIN STU!


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Post  Stick on Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:42 am

I think you just pwned yourself in that statement( reread carefully and you'll see it). I think your sthenolagnia is clouding your judgement :)
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  LunchPolice on Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:19 am

Ok, what would you have to take away from Bra to make her not a Mary Sue?
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Ussj Future Trunks on Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:23 am

nothing. shes basically an anti sue altogether. tragic past/chosen one? no. flawed? yeah. implausible power? no. the story revolves around her? no. impossibly hot and perfect? no. idealized by salagir as a self insert or wish fulfillment? maybe as a "strong female super saiyan wish fulfillment" but thats it.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Docter KillJoy on Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:23 am

meh, i look forward to buu absorbing her, when he can't get broly
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Hyp3rB14d3 on Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:03 am

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:nothing. shes basically an anti sue altogether. tragic past/chosen one? no. flawed? yeah. implausible power? no. the story revolves around her? no. impossibly hot and perfect? no. idealized by salagir as a self insert or wish fulfillment? maybe as a "strong female super saiyan wish fulfillment" but thats it.

Oh, so she's had a totally ordinary past that didn't involve her seriously wounding any friends or family members with her power that she can't properly control, then? You can't claim that Bra hasn't had a tragic past because we simply don't know what her past is. Also, Bra is far from being an Anti Sue. Which you'll realize is a good thing once you read what an Anti Sue is.

From what I can tell, Bra isn't actually a Sue. She does, however, have way more than two common Mary Sue traits. Ussj Future Trunks, for the sake of making a more convincing argument than "SHE'S NOT A SUE! STFU!", you might want to read through this list, and try to do so with the viewpoint of someone who's looking for reasons to label Bra as a Sue. Once you understand why people are labeling Bra as a Mary Sue, you should be able to construct a more convincing argument against the viewpoint.
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Post  Stick on Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:39 pm

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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Ussj Future Trunks on Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:16 pm

well vegetto is dead. and enough with the sue topic. sues dont kill their fathers D:
and broly got sent back. that opens up the whole tournament. i guess we will see the end of yamcha vs 18.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Hyp3rB14d3 on Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:51 pm

You're just wishing. Vegetto's just unconscious. In a few pages or so, they're going to give him a senzu bean and he'll be back to being one of the top two powers of the tournament.

Also, killing their father sounds like a very sue-ish backstory event. Now go read the pages I directed you to earlier.


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Post  Stick on Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:53 pm

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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Mrperson0 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:54 pm

Actually, I'm kind of hoping that Vegetto is dead. If he comes back to life, Zenkai will surely help him and then it REALLY won't be fair.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Hyp3rB14d3 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:57 pm

If Vegetto is dead, that still leaves Zen Buu, who has already stated that he is stronger than Vegetto. Although he could have been bluffing or underestimating Vegetto. And I guess there's nothing stopping Goku and Vegeta from fusing into Gogeta.
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Post  Mrperson0 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:23 pm

Pretty much. If Vegetto gets a Zenkai, he'll very likely be stronger than U18 Gogeta, and that is no fun.

Man, DBM sure turned me into a U16 Vegetto hater, only due to the fact he decided to stay with Bulma. :\
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Hyp3rB14d3 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:27 pm

Actually, I believe Salagir stated that Vegetto is effectively practicing polygamy.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Mrperson0 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:53 pm

Yeah, that's even worse. Vegetto would simply ask for another pair of earrings to be made, which the Elder Kai very likely could do. That would be the least as thanks to Vegetto for saving the entire universe, and he would understand Vegetto's problem.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Docter KillJoy on Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:08 pm

in dbm it's pretty sure that vegetto > gogeta
mainly because of the diminish returns cap that got placed on goku and vegeta.

and why do you think that chi-chi and bulma would even agree on a permant fusion
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Mrperson0 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:58 pm

It's pretty tough to say, because it Goku and Vegeta trained for the same amount of years Vegetto did. If they fused into Vegetto, that Vegetto would be weaker than the U16 one? In the end, the diminishing caps theory is pretty much bs and is against what Dragonball is.

As for the Bulma and Chichi thing, they obviously wanted to be with Vegetto even though he was stuck that way. So they would either fuse to "rightfully" be with him or not want to be with him at all.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Hyp3rB14d3 on Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:39 pm

Or one would steal him from the other, or they would share. Or he would cheat on them with each other via IT, either with or without their knowledge (although whether or not it would actually be cheating is up for debate, since technically he'd be married to both of them).
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Docter KillJoy on Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:00 am

he could have always thought them the fusion dance to use for those special nights Razz
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Hello?

Post  Mrperson0 on Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:58 am

Anyone out there? Nothing new to talk about in the new pages yet? XD
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Stick on Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:36 pm

Make a new topic then, retard....
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Hyp3rB14d3 on Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:52 pm

Huh. Based on the recent comics, it looks like SSJ2 Bra isn't quite powerful enough to one-shot Gohan, which probably puts her strength somewhere in the area of Buutenks, who also couldn't quite one-shot Gohan.
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Re: How strong is Bra?

Post  Leon on Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:50 pm

Salagir went ahead and stated that SSj Bra is in SSj3 tier with Gohan, and that SSj2 Bra is in "SSj5" tier with SSj Vegeto. This probably means that Bra is at the very top of SSj3 Tier and towards the bottom of SSj5 tier.

Also, Base Vegeto is a little > Gohan. I just finished reading the U16 novelization, and he has 2 spars with him. He wins the first one pretty easily, and its pretty even in the second one...except Vegeto had been dying of hunger for close to a year at that point.
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