Goku vs Majin Vegeta

overrated? i think so.

I am waiting the revenge in DBM: SSJ3 Vegeta vs SSJ3 Goku

Vegeta has some alternative to SSj3. Hasn't said what yet, but its mentioned in the novel.

Paraphrase "SSj3 is worthless. It drains far too much power."

Goku: "But we need to master SSj3 to go further."

Vegeta: "You fool. There's someone in this room who's doing it much better."

*gohan feels uncomfortable*

Goku: "But he got a boost from the elder Kai. That doesn't count."

Vegeta: *waves hand dismissively* "Proof of concept. It shows it can be done, that doesn't mean its the only way to do it."

Vegeta: *waves hand dismissively* "Proof of concept. It shows it can be done, that doesn't mean its the only way to do it."

Wow, awesome!

Can you give me the link of the novel?

Well, now that SSJ3 Vegeta has been shown in some "official" form, I hope Salagir retcons that and ends up making Vegeta SSJ3 now. It really doesn't make sense if there is a transformation only unique to Vegeta. And with these past 20 years, I don't see why neither Goku nor Vegeta wouldn't be able to master SSJ3 in that time and make it useful like what Vegeta is talking about. Now a re-match between Goku and Vegeta would be awesome.

It makes perfect sense for there to be a transformation specific to Vegeta, especially if he's been working on a counter to SSJ3. After all, SSJ3 was exclusive to Goku until Gotenks copied it. It wouldn't be impossible for other saiyans to achieve it, it just requires training. Likewise, since Goku's been working on mastering SSJ3, it would also make sense for his transformation to be more useful than it was during the Buu saga.

The novel is in french. Go to the "Read DBM" page where you can select any of the comics and change the settings to French. The various universe novels will be selectable at that point. Copy the address address and then search google for google translate, paste the address in the field, change the settings to French - English and enjoy the broken, by mostly understandable translation.

so...mystic vegeta? lawl. i would like to see "USSJ2". meaning putting out the power of ssj3 without the negative effects of power drain. the form would have no eyes (like ussj1) and bigger muscles (like assj or the form vegeta used vs cell). of course vegeta would be a bit slower than goku, but would last longer in the fight. meaning goku runs out of energy after an evenly matched fight, and vegeta goes on to the next match (wouldn't it be cool if he fought U16 bra? )

ANYWAY.....let's get back on topic. is goku vs majin vegeta overrated?

Leon wrote:Vegeta has some alternative to SSj3. Hasn't said what yet, but its mentioned in the novel.

Paraphrase "SSj3 is worthless. It drains far too much power."

Goku: "But we need to master SSj3 to go further."

Vegeta: "You fool. There's someone in this room who's doing it much better."

*gohan feels uncomfortable*

Goku: "But he got a boost from the elder Kai. That doesn't count."

Vegeta: *waves hand dismissively* "Proof of concept. It shows it can be done, that doesn't mean its the only way to do it."

a boost from elder kai? the hell?
all elder kai did was unlock all of gohans hidden potential/power. allowing him to be at max power at all times.
he didn't boost up gohan with his own power.

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the goku vs majin vegeta fight was good, but the early dbz fight of their battle (saiyan saga) was better in my opinion

Right. Vegeta was saying that Gohan basically had all the power that he would have as an SSj3 (or more) without having to waste any energy or strain on a transformation.

didnt kibito say gohan was pushed PAST his limits? hence why he was so much stronger

kibito said a lot of things. like that gohan would not be able to pull the z-sword lose

yeah but old kai said it too. it was the whole point of the ritual

all that power and he still gets his ass kicked. gohan realy is a crappy fighter

indeed

but future gohan more than makes up for him